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From ladiesagainstfeminism.com Comments and Letters I am placing my comments under "Scorching Rhetoric", not because I am some "ranting feminist" as you might like to believe, but because I wish to fully support your critics. I sympathize with their intense revulsion. I regret that their comments reflect a bristling, yet justifiable anger that you probably find amusing. (It really is not funny). By contrast, I strive to "keep my cool." I have studied people like you for years, and have become adept at keep cool. Yes, that includes studying everyone on the Religious Right from Reverend Fred Phelps (wife beater, child abuser), to Dr. Peter Ruckman, to Dr. Ian Paisley, to Reverend Charles Gleason who believes not only in spanking children, but wives as well. (Gleason views such domestic discipline as a reflection of how your Jesus disciplines his church.) I have encountered vicious street preachers, all of whom share your views. That includes the unemployed, woman-hating Rev. Michael Woroniecki, who browbeat Andrea Yates until the mentally fragile, submissive housewife snapped and drowned her 5 children in a tub. It includes vicious preachers who scream WHORE at women in slacks on their way to work. It includes self-appointed Fundamentalists who publish tons of literature and websites urging men to "put women in their place." That means rescind our vote. It includes rabid anti-abortion preachers who block clinics, using their submissive wives in their long dresses, pale faces, bulging bellies; screaming broods of 9 or 10 kids who regularly get whippings with the belt. That includes GROWN ADULT daughters not yet married to a man of their father's choosing, who are forced to forego education/career, and remain under their religious father's roof. Yes, it includes preachers who praised Rev. Paul Hill as their brave Christian hero, just like the saint Phinehas in the Old Testament. (Rev. Hill was recently executed for shooting a doctor in the back). Yes, ladies...... by now I am thoroughly familiar with you people. You no longer shock me. But you will always sadden me. Why? Because you are not inherently stupid. But you BEHAVE stupidly and are appallingly ungrateful for all that feminists have done for you. By "feminist" I do not mean radical feminists. One needn't agree with everything in modern feminism. Understandably, many object to Lesbian marriages, abortion on demand, etc. Still, Feminism should NOT be hated by you people, but appreciated!! I mean that !! Were it not for feminism, not one of us could vote, attend college, hold a decent job if we are forced to work to support ourselves. Feminists were jailed and some tortured, to get you your rights. Concerning work/careers, remember that work can be more than a necessity. With many woman nowadays, work is a JOY. It is a means by which we can use advanced education, brains, creativity, etc. Plus get respect from men as being intellectually and professional equal, if not superior. Plus no longer be at the mercy of some ARROGANT "man" who thinks women are only good for lying naked in bed to do their wifely duty. And push out babies like a ***** whelping her litters (let the children starve, as long as your "god" gets his human litters). Just look at Afghanistan, with its super religious Taliban. Women were imprisoned in their homes under the guise of "chastity", "Muslim virtue", etc. They were flogged, frequently beaten by religious husbands, sometimes even killed (often by the husband "accidentally" pushing the wife into a wood stove). Yet when Taliban fell, did you see TV footage of those brave, veiled women lining up to take the entrance exam to get into college? And doing so in sub-freezing weather!!! In ramshackle classrooms with no heat or running water. Desperate to get an education, to become doctors. They knew that in spite of the importance of homemaking, women DESPERATELY need more. They (we) need education and civil rights to survive in this mean-spiried world we live in. While at first I thought the website a "gag" site...after reading through it, I was actually in shock... While I know there are ladies out there who are not on the feminism bandwagon, this was just one the the strangest things I've ever seen. You should thank the "feminists" who went before you, for without them, you'd not even have the voice to put up this website. Feminisim is not just for a few, it's for all of us. Do you ladies vote at all??? Makes me wonder, for without them you'd still be under the heavy hand of the hubby. I'm glad, no EXUBERANT for the trials & tribulations of the women who worked hard, spoke up & made a difference for not only me, but my fellow women. While I agree with some of what you have on your site, I think some is a bit BACKWARD. Granted, this is just an opinion....but I for one wouldn't want to go back to the Victorian era where women were hardly seen, if not never heard. Quiet women never make history, and well behaved gals dont make the history books. You should take a class in Women's Studies... might learn that for without the fallen females of yesteryear, you'd not have the luxuries you like so much now. Or maybe you want to be submissive, demure and quiet, that is your choice. Thank the GODS I dont have to live like that. ~A Misbehaved & LOUD chick who can't WAIT to make the history books. ~ Irish Your site is degrading to women everywhere. I know that you can't force your opinions on others just for having a website, but your site really does make me sick to my stomach. Now, I'm not writing this comment to rant about your site without giving it a good read first. After reading several articles on your site, I have come to the conclusion that your site, is, at the very least, anti-feminist. How can you feel good about yourself while slaving over a hot oven all day, cleaning up what is most likely the mess that your adoring husband has left behind for you, not being caught dead in a pair of pants, and now... you won't get a job because you shouldn't compete with men in thier "god-given roles"? Are men (and the Bible) controling your life? Have you ever thought for yourself? (and when I say "think for yourself" I don't mean "what kind of dinner should I cook for my husband?" or "what color dress will match with my apron?" Those don't count) Is it so hard for men to get on thier knees and scrub the floors? for them to cook dinner for you? for them to clean up after themselves? I mean, since they are "so strong" are they too strong to do thier own laundry? Think about it. I'm not asking you to change, I can't make you change, and I could care less if you do change, it's your own choice, but I can say how I feel about this website and about everyone and anyone who supports it, and that is to accept that feminism is here to stay, like it or not, and that you are a part of it everyday, and don't respond to me with that "we have myths about feminism in our FAQs" because I have read all of them; you have definitely proven how uneducated you are, but then again, if it weren't for people like you, feminism would not exist and I would not have anything to stand up for or protest, so enjoy being a stay-at-home slave. Love, Bambi I am a young Christian woman, and I do NOT agree with everything you have posted on your site. What is so wrong with wanting something different from being a mother? I personally do not want children. Perhaps that will change one day, but not in the foreseeable future. I enjoy spending time with young men, albeit in platonic relationships, and don't mind their occasional loud behavior. I enjoy sports. I have taken lessons in one sport, and watch another on a regular basis. There are a number of others that I would love to try my hand at. The comments you have posted on your website that pretty well says that women should be kept in the kitchen, barefoot and pregnant, are disgusting to me. How dare you suggest that I can't get a job outside of my home? While we're at it, how dare you suggest a lot of the things you suggest... I am a strong, confident, intelligent young woman, and I will not stand for you bashing people like me. While I respect your decision to stay at home to be a mother, that is not for me. Is it so hard for you to accept that a woman can go out, have a job and have good, clean fun and still be a good Christian lady? Or are you just THAT narrow-minded? A little advice from a true lady: I think YOU ladies need a reality check, and soon. ~ Jean Hello. I just wanted to assert my ****. Oh wait, that isn't a word! Oops. Anyhoo. I have a fat, hairy husband who goes to his gas station job while I sit at home and knit, cook, clean, and shove apple sauce down parasites' a.k.a kids' throats. I am such a positive creature! My purpose is really contributing so much to the betterment of humanity. I scent my ***** with oils that smell like..... wild flowers! When my husband comes home from his job I fall all over him trying to kiss his ***. He is so superior than me! All I'm meant to do is clean and spread my legs whenever he wants! God really does love me because, who would give such an important and meaningful job to someone if they didn't love them?! God sure wouldn't! No, seriously, why would an intelligent creature like me want to waste my potential raising a brat? I could have so much more fun doing what I wanted. Like: riding my motorcycle, traveling, writing, watching action movies, joining the army, playing sports (because they are fun and I like doing them), and making fun of sexist ***** cows with glazed over eyes! I am entitled to every freedom that men enjoy. Because I am human and I want it. I have likes, dislikes, hopes, aspirations, bowl movements, and ***** sessions like every other human. And the strength difference? Not much of one. It varies in people. You mindless sheep have been brainwashed into thinking that men deserve more than you and that you are inferior. Wrongo. And while you may be able to post this ****, the majority of the world will never adopt these ideas. You aren't doing anything great. Try thinking for yourself. Light up a pipe and get high. Go for a ride on a harley. Go to operas and rock concerts. Knit if it makes you happy. I have nothing against home makers, but people who think everyone should do it **** me off. Especially when women think that way. You can't even see your own worth. A woman's place is wherever she **** well feels like. Anti-feminism is the foolish idea that women are not human. ~ Violet I am a sixteen year old girl. I do well in school, I dress in a modest manner, and I behave well. But I believe that most of the ideas put forward on your website are very outdated. The idea that women should be subbordinate to men is one that belongs to the cavemen. Civilization has tought us otherwise. Tests prove that women are at least as smart as men, and able to do the same work that men can do. You are forcing archaic religious ideas into a place they do not belong. ~ Ashley Thanks to a combination of humanist values, advanced education and technology, and a more mature view of human beings (male, female, black, white), the world is a safer place. It's people like you who would rob us of our dignity and safety, by plunging us backwards. While I understand your desire for traditional values, especially strengthening families, the MANNER in which you seek to achieve those values is archaic. I am so thankful to live in the 21st century. I was one of those women who didn't want husband and children, but was overjoyed to have the career of my dreams. Now of retirement age, I look back and thank my parents, my society at large, for subscribing to enlightened values. ~ Aviv S. I just curious on how stupid women look, that is why I'm on this site. I'm a Christian and I couldn't believe that there are women as stupid as you are here. It is amazing how God will accept your anti-women stand. yeah i was doing research and i came upon this site. is this a ******* joke? since time began women have fought for equality b/c they too are people! and here you're trying to say that we're the weaker gender? wtf is your problem? i'm really ****** b/c i come from a single parent family and my mother tried VERY hard and struggled VERY much to raise me. i know what women are capable of, but you religious ******** don't seem to. religion preys on the minds of the weak, and GOD SAVE US FROM YOUR FOLLOWERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ~ Dionne, militant feminist and lesbian I have to ask, is this website a JOKE???? It almost has to be, are there women out there who really believe this ****!? I am a college educated women and I passionately believe that women are fully capable of EVERYTHING that men are, and that we should get off of our pathetic housewife ***** and realize that women can and should take on any job that a man does! I work at Planned Parenthood and am supremely shocked by the very idea that any women could be against the amazing work that Planned Parenthood does. If this website is in fact a joke, then props to the creators, it really got me and my feminist groups good and angry. If not, you are all fools trying to debunk all of the rights that our foremothers had to struggle and even die to gain for us. If anything, your site has made me even more passionate about furthering the modern feminist movement. I hope to NEVER be trapped by the confines of marriage and motherhood and I cannot understand why any woman would chose that. You make a mockery of women and turn them into submissive slaves. I think your website is disgusting. ~Cortney I am 16, looking to attend Cornell University in a year and a half or so, and make a life for me that can redefine femininity for the twentieth century. While you are living a life of self-mutilation so to speak, I'll gain strength, intellect, and self-sufficiency. God bless, take some prozac, and your cause will soon perish. ~ Elise I am absolutely astounded to have found this website in the first place. It makes me sick to think that women THEMSELVES are actually against the idea of their own liberation, and shocks me to read that it is considered to be "a grave mockery of God’s perfect design for His women". I literally feel sick to the stomach knowing that some women in this day and age still have such a limited view of themselves. ~ Jane I was referred to this site by my wife, she works for a women's clinic that offers pregnancy counseling. They provide abortion and counseling services for women. Where do you get these notions of what men and women are supposed to do? I know, from the bible...if you want to live your life by an ancient tome, that's fine. But your conclusions about the downfall of society occuring because I wouldn't sacrifice my life for a woman's, or my wife and I don't want children is preposterous. We as a society are using reason more and more to run our lives, not the fear of punishment from a mystical force beyond our control. My life is my own, not to be sacrificed for another nor another for mine. The individual is supreme, I hope that maybe someday you will see that. ~ Larry M. i do not even know where to start. okay, lets start with the banner. "promoting beautiful womanhood." your idea of beautiful womanhood must be a lot different than my idea of it! in fact, it would be a lot closer to my defination of "pathetic ****." you are an embarasment to your gender. all of you here. there's a reason i only date feminists! i also noticed repetetive references to that spawn of the antichrist known as "doctor" laura. all i can say is that this figures. that homophobic psycho ***** always lies! i also noticed biblical references. if jesus knew that his words would be twisted thus, he would have never bothered to be born. it's funny how the evilest of people always somehow use the words of god to back themselves. also, there are letters from men who are in some sort of marage problems: "oh, boo, hoo! my wife hates me! she's always complaining that things don't get done! blah, blah, blah. whah, whah, whah." that kind of letter. i would like to point out that these men are incredible losers. wanting to be the breadwinner, the knight in shining armour, etcetera, is childish. complaining when this turns out not to be the case is EXTREMELY childish. babying a man who holds onto these delusions is not healthy for man or wife, and definently not for the children. yes, i am a feminist. any men with any sense would be. there is a simple equation that most seem to lack any concept of: strong mate=strong offspring smart mate=smart offspring therefore, men should look for women who are inteligent, independent, and strong-willed. where, i ask you, would i find such women? certainly not here! only when men and women are equal will these women be plentiful enough so as to reverse damage done to the human genome by ceturies of sexism. back to the subject at hand i noticed a couple of abortion links. it did not take an iq of 300 to guess that these were anti-abortion pages. you seem the type. dumb women who reproduce like crazy. so you don't like abortion. what should victims of rape and incest (which is a sin, as i recall) do? toss these babies into a dumpster? that would be a lot crueler. or maybe they should raise a kid they don't want and can't provide for. you should really think on your oppinion before you make web pages like this. if you ask "why" enough, you end up finding out that it does not make sense. burn in hell, shaun, michael, & james It is good to see the back-waters have finally got electricity and gone online. I would be more worried about all of this if there were more than 5 of you. As women having equal rights, you are certainly allowed to have your opinion and broadcast that opinion however you choose. I also noticed you made a point of mentioning how the Bible encourages women to teach wisdom and kindness. That is fine. However, I hope you are aware that although the Bible may encourage this, women were denied the right to even so much as do that for centuries. If it weren't for the fight for equality by people such as Susan B. Anthony or Alice Paul, you would not have the freedom and luxury of being able to "teach wisdom." I am not for hardcore feminism but there's nothing wrong with women being able to accomplish the same goals as men and live their lives however they see fit. Not every woman wants to stand barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen, cooking dinner for her master (husband?) while chasing around 7 other brats (children?). As a married young woman, I choose to raise my children equally with my husband. I am allowed to pursue an education and he supports me so that I may prepare myself for any career I choose. He works full time yet we share in household chores and the raising of our children. If I feel like cooking him and the kids dinner, I do. If I don't then he will cook or the kids may just have some cereal. That's how life should be if someone wants it to be that way! ~ Ang Your page is reidiculous. I can not even believe how confused you are about what femisim means. I hope that one day you understand the truth and see past conservative propaganda and your own prejudices. ~ Jeremy To all the ladies who made this website: Let me tell you, that I am not a feminist, nor a lesbian or whatever...I am a 16 year old girl, from Vienna, Austria. And your page just drives me crazy. I don't know why or how it is possible, that women who seem to be rather intelligent write so much stupid things about "womenhood" and "menhood" and especially the issue about gay parent hood...I've never read something like that. In that issue gay parenthood is criticized, because one woman had a bad childhood because of another woman who was a lesbian...Come on, don't tell me that every gay person in the world is as crazy as that woman, please...That's so extremly stupid!!! I don't tel you, not to act like a real lady or to dress like one, but some of your views are so extremly conservative. You really waste your time and intelligence on this website. Open your mind for new things. Greetings Just a girl what an absurd website you have here, move on! You are not being oppressed in these times, you're not in the victorian ages! ~ Yasin This is the most disgusting drivel I have ever seen. Are you TRYING to keep the rest of us down? I DO NOT WANT TO BE CONSIDERED THE SERVANT OF A MAN. The Bible was ****, plain and simple. You are buying into fairytales you brainwashed morons. I hate being female because of YOU. You should all be put away. HOW DARE YOU PREACH STUFF LIKE THIS TO YOUNG IMPRESSIONABLE FEMALES! You are worse than any male chauvinist I have ever encountered and that is saying A LOT! I would think at this point in time, women can join together and make a stand for equal rights. Women in history have fought and stuggled to attain equalty. Men have no right in any way to oppress the female gender, nor do they have the right to beat, rape, exploit and abuse us in any form or fashion. I respect one's religion and philosophy about the world. However, I do not and can not respect women who are just as bad as the male gender, if not worse. It's absolutely disgusting to know that there are women living in modern day society who allow men to exploit their hard labor, sexuality and gender as a whole. I only hope that one day the women who are involved with this site, and the many followers are enlightened and awakened. I only hope that, women who are subjected to oppression, and abuse will open their eyes, and take a stance to change society, and the rights of feminine equality. Ciao, A true feminist" You People Are Scary ~ Karl oh yes, this makes sense you are a pastor's wife....yes let's all just be little dolls so we can all be dressed up beautifully and ordered about. Or, here's a thought, why don't we think with our own minds and speak our thoughts. you obviously aren't proud of your gender and like to be ruled by a chauvinistic patrilineal society. But well behaved women never make history. For a long time I was convinced that this web site was a joke. I'm still having my doubts. It's completely unbelievable how anyone with a brain could share these backward opinions. It makes me really sad... Has the fight that women have fought through all time been for nothing? Women of your kind are a disgrace to humanity. That's just a fact. I'd be happy if you could just settle down somewhere in the middle of nowhere and keep those anti feminist views to yourselves... or just die. Klara 20 yrs old, Sweden i was so suprised by the title of your website on Google that i had to click on it. i am disturbed by your views and the sheer idiocy that you seem to be promoting. i am an avid reader of the teachings of feminism which, if you took the time to read them, you would understand that feminism is not the advocation of whoring and partially nude women, but of the growth of us all as a gender. feminism does not contribute to the sale of a woman's body and pride- rather, it is totall against it. i think the people who make this website should be subjected to the rape and death of the women who do believe, either by birth or culture, that they are less than men. these beliefs that you hold so dear will be your downfall and will eventually lead to some man thinking that you are a doormat, a whore, and easily silenced and "dealt with" how dare you try to spread this horrific masochism among women.~ Kelly you people make me want to scream, cry and vomit. how could you have such disrespect for yourself? i do not understand. every woman i know would vomit if they read and every man i know probably would too. WE ARE MAN'S EQUAL NOT MAN'S SLAVE. i am 17 years old and i think its disgusting this **** is allowed on the internet. chilren could read it for crying out loud. you make me sick, i would rather cut my own throat than stay at home painfully pushing out babies like an animal and then cooking and cleaning like a slave. i am above that, maybe the slave thing works for really stupid women like you but i have intelligence and i am going to contribute to societ and do something worthwhile dammit. everything u say is wrong. women have the right to have sex with anyone they want, dress however they want, say whatever they want and choose whatever career they want. i know i will and my life will be happy not oppressed like yours. when i have children i will love them more than anything and teach them to love and respect themselves as women (unlike this ******** site) and i will continue to work to make sure they have a positive role model. the woman who made this website has probably never had an orgasm and probably gets beaten by the husband she slaves after as he dosent respect or love her coz she dosent even respect or love herself coz she is a tool. THE BIBLE DOES NOT SAY THAT WOMAN ARE INFERIOR TO MEN. carry on living ur life as an oppressed slave if u like. u can get out if u want. u know y? COZ FEMENISTS FOUGHT FOR OUR FREEDOM. but anyway have a nice life as an ugly slave. i'm going to have one with travelling, career, excitement and as much sexual pleasure as i want. get a life u ******* retards! PS i will laugh when you die and find there is no god and u wasted ur life as slave. ~ Ashley how degrading this site is. this no womans vision, this is no man's vision, this is a sickos vision. alot of the woman are saying this is a man's fantasy but i believe the only thing holding back women is the types of women that created this site. i dont know any men that want a slave as a wife. most men i know would be sickened by this site. my dad would be angry it even existed and that i was reading it. feminism is about equality for each sex. this site is degrading to both genders as each can act how they want. its ok for a man to cry and its ok for a woman to play football if she wants. stop telling us what each gender can and cant do. ur life does not have to be ruled by the fact u have an X or a Y chromosome. an individual picks what is right for them whether they be male or female. there is no weaker sex. ~ Morgan I find it unfortunate that you have dedicated your lives and this space in the ether to turning back the clock on equality. Feminism, in spite of your fanciful theorising, is about acheiving a level of equality that allows a woman to make the choice about whether she would like to become a torch bearing hairy-legged femocrat, or stay at home and look after her family, and to make that choice without feeling demoralised or patronised about her role in society. Not surprisingly, feminism is about expanding choice and freedom for women to nominate their own future, and once we are freed of the ageing patriarchy, such as yourselves, we will hopefully be one step closer. Until then, I am happy to sit and wait for you to meet with your own fate. With youth on my side....Hairy-legged femocrat Is this site meant to be a parody? If not, it comes pretty close to being one whether you like it or not. Quite a hoot. ~ Darlene Do you ever choke on your own hatred and hypocrisy? Do you ever stop to think who you might be hurting? Do you even care? You are deeply, deeply disturbed women. May God forgive you for the harm and pain you cause others. May God forgive you for your blindness and shallow, superficial judgementalism. Have you ever spoken to a girl or woman who has been raped? Have you ever bothered to look up the statistics behind rape, and the psychological profiles of the men who perpetrate rape? Why don't you cite your sources and put up the statistics you used to come to the conclusions you have? All I see is condemnation and hate and ugliness coming from you. Christ's commandment to us all was to love one another as He loved us - he never called anyone a "harlot" or a "hooker". He was gentle, loving and kind. You are merely spiteful, mean and cold. You judge and condemn, you point fingers, you refuse to seek to understand. I would feel sorry for you, or just laugh you off as sad old women playng dress-up, but your venom leads me to believe you're truly ugly-hearted, mean-spirited, hateful women who hate other women. May God forgive you for your blindness and your spite. May God show His mercy and compassion and love to the women and the families you've wounded with your cold, thoughtless, ignorant words... Does your hate keep you warm at night? I hope so, because you haven't really got anything else, do you? ~ J Let me just say I had to vomit up the muffins I just ate because I saw this site. How can you woman act like thats the right thing? Modest dressing to you is showing 4 inches of skin, on your face only. Girls are not kidnapped because they are seen wearing mid driffs and low cut tops, they are kidnapped because of psychotic men who have problems. I am 14 years old, living in Chicago, and I wear very low cut tops sometimes, tight jeans,many band t shirts.I DONT THINK IVE EVER BEEN ******** KIDNAPPED! Girls who go to church and wear "modest" clothes arent kidnapped because not every girl is kidnapped you ******** dumbasses. They are too sheltered and not allowed to actually experience life.I smoke weed everyday and am a hippie, which means I also promote WOMANS RIGHTS. I actually have a future, unlike you pieces of **** who act like serving others and being in the kitchen all day for your whole loves is the best thing in the world. Do everyone in the world a favor and burn your bibles. I personally dont even believe there is a God, and you talk as if this religion is the best in the world. Then you act like if you are not part of it and following this God's expectations then you will go to hell. AND WHY THE **** WOULD WOMAN BE UNHAPPY IF THEY GOT A COLLEGE EDUCATION INSTEAD OF BEING STUCK IN A HUOSE WITH 6 ******** KIDS AND A HUSBAND WHO IS A ******** *******?!?!?!YOU PEOPEL NEED TO PULL THE STICK OUT OF YOUR *** AND EMBRACE THE FACT THAT WOMAN TODAY ARE GETTING EDUCATIONS AND CAREERS AND NOT HAVE TO DO WHATEVER PEOPle TELL THEM! why would a woman not deserve a night out at a bar or going out at night?!?! YOU ******* NEED TO GET A ******** LIFE!!!!!!!! ~ Becky So, "Lady" Lydia...are any of those pictures of women in white dresses going to be African-American women, Asian women, First Nations women, tribal women, aboriginal women or Polynesian women? Why do you use a title you have neither earned nor inherited? Do you like feeling superior to other people? Do you enjoy evoking an era where wealthy white Christians oppressed and abused the poor, the disadvantaged and people of different ethnicities? You're an American. Men and women _died_ so that we wouldn't have a titled class in this country. You are no lady. You are a racist, a bigot, a snob and a narrow-minded pedant. Your site is disgusting from start to finish. You promote a class system, racism, white supremacy and hatred and oppression of anyone who doesn't think like you. What of the girls who are gifted with minds meant for medicine or the law? What about the wonderful women physicians of Doctors Without Borders, or the women who represent the beaten and raped for free so that they may find some justice in the criminal court system? According to you, they're not real women, they're not ladies, and they go against the will of the shallow, superficial little god you've created in your own insipid image, but to the rest of the world, they're angels sent by the loving, compassionate, mysterious Christian God. Who are _you_ to say God doesn't have a different plan for one woman than another? Who died and made you God, you pompous, dull-witted, sanctimonious old fool? There is a special place in Hell for people like you. You are anything but loving, compassionate and Christian. You are hate personified. You sad, sorry *****. You ugly, hateful, scrawny old hag in tacky blue eye-shadow and more rouge than you'd find on ten Christie street crack whores... You are one disgusting, ignorant, stupid, uninformed, uneducted, tasteless, tacky old sow... How do you live with yourself? Do you really think God can't see the ugly truth you keep hidden in your heart? You, you old cow, are Satan personified. May you rot in Hell forever. To the doormat, When I first stumbled onto this website, I honestly thought it was a joke. After realizing that people actually take this site seriously, I was shocked and horrified that people like you still exist in today's world. After everything that woman have been working towards for the last several hundred years it is absolutely disgusting to see commentary, like this, displayed for the public to view. It is so pathetic that in this day and age "woman" like you actually still feel this way about your femininity and sexuality. You have declared us to be a lesser sex with all of your ridiculous views on how woman should behave and live. The Stepford wives is a HORROR (and somewhat COMEDIC) movie for a reason. A woman that is slave to her husband, children, and household, with no seperate identity of her own is horrific and comedic. I am not refering to "stay at home moms" in general, because currently, I am one ... I am talking about woman that are in essense robots controlled only by thier households and those that reside in them. Hw dare you say insinuate that woman can only work in office cubbys, in a factory or Wal-marts, and that staying home would be a more productive lifestyle for a woman than having a job. TAKE A LOOK AROUND! With no thanks to females like you, some of the most powerful, intellegent, respected, and accomplished people in the world today ARE REAL WOMAN, not bible-brainwashed, slaves to men, as you are. And MANY working woman CHOOSE to hold thier jobs, so that they can be well-rounded individuals with actual satisfying lives. And MOST woman do not fight off regret when leaving thier children to go to work because they have found a SECURE, SAFE, LOVING and STIMULATING enviroment for thier children to be cared for while they work. And most INTELLECTUAL woman know, that by working and having identities that they formed FOR THEMSELVES by the worth of thier own being, they are bettering thier own lives, and in return bettering the lives of thier children and husbands. Stop forcing your old fashioned ideals on others, keep them to yourself, restrained by the walls of your house, as you are. I feel so sorry for your children, though, that they have probably been forced to listen to your mind-numbing babble since the day that they were born. If they are fortunate enough to get a college education (which I am sure that any girls will not - as you probably know that knowledge equals power, and they will realize immediately that thier mother has been raising them in a FALSE world, and probably abandon all of your "ideals" instantly) ... but, if they do get a college education, they will either be shocked by the realities of the real world (which differs so much from the fake facade that you have created for them) and as a result suffer nervous breakdowns, or they will rebel immediately against your certifiably insane teachings, and probably experiment with *GASP* ALCOHOL, DRUGS, SEX, ROCK & ROLL - OH THE UNADULTRATED HORROR!!! Worst of luck with your website, and your mindless followers, and whatever you do, please do not pray for me with your immoral prayers, because I don't wan't anything from people like you.Lastly, here is one of my favorite quotes: "I have never been able to find out precisely what feminism is: I only know that people call me a feminist whenever I express sentiments that differentiate me from a doormat" - Rebecca West 1913 (Imagine that! Ms. West was FAR more advanced in 1913 than you are today in 2004!) ~ Stephanie I am a Christian, and I think the article about "stay at home daughters" is the one fo the most disgusting things I've ever read!!!! Firstly, if a girl decides not to go to college, she should either get a job, or start a business at home, not bludge around the house, helping mommy with housework. I would NEVER allow my daughter to do that, as my mum would have never allowed me! Secondly, what right to you have to say that a woman who is not called to be married, MUST be a maid or something and not be allowed to follow a career. If she hasn't got children to look after, then why can't she go to college and use her God-given talents. It would be a horrible world if only men worked as doctors, for the government or in business! I personally prefer to see a female doctor when I have my pap-smear!!!!! I agree that the ultimate is for a mother to stay at home. However 1. that is not always possible, as in my case, where I have to work 2 days a week to help pay bills and buy food, and 2. a loving working mother is much better than a lousy SAHM. My daughter is 9 now, and I encourage her every day that she is beautiful and talented and can be anything she wants. She is doing very well at school. I INSIST that she finish school and go to college to get an education! I would NEVER allow her to bludge at home, waiting for her knight in shining armour (no Christian man would look at her twice if she did - unless he was a control freak!!!) She will not waste her God-given talent on housework. When she marries and has children, it will be between her and her husband what they do. ~ Jennifer You poor ladies remind me of the women in Bountiful BC - part of a cult and you don't even know it. Wake up and educate yourselves for God's sake! ~ Camille L. I think your website and views by LAF members are totally mad and out of this world, as a student studying Psychology, Law and Sociology i aim to do very well in life ad not rely on a man to provide for me. Fair play to all the women who have got a nice home life and a "Man", but would it kill you to go out and GET A LIFE? You are not real women, just marely sad stereotypes who influence the ways in which women have fought so had to prevent. Get a life and better still get jobs! ~ Jade W. tsk tsk. All i can say is "unbelieveable." The only way to get your husband to absolutely adore you is by cooking for him, keeping your mouth shut, and making yourself over - utterly ridiculous and absurd; how can you say your husband honestly loves you? I despise women like you, you are pathetic and you all will rot because of this nonsense. Maybe you should read what Elizabeth Cady Stanton had to say about that bible you idiots read. ~ Melissa You people are freaking idiots. I am laughing at you as I write this. You talk frequently about God through your site. Right now he is probably frowning at you and shaking his head. Absolute ******** ********. Oh yes, I forgot--a proper lady must not swear. Idiots. ~ Annie B. I would imagine that by your standards I could be called a feminist, though I think of myself as a normal middle-aged lady. I am a mother of two very bright and very independent daughters. That you believe in limiting them (and me) and in doing so, limiting my husband- goes so against our nature. I was raised to understand that my partner would be my equal. My husband does not make the rules- we decide our path through the world together. Why be dictated to when consensus can and does work- and can set such a fine example to children? My dear and loving husband cringes as much as I do to think that anyone, or any law, would relegate our daughters to only prescribed "feminine" endeavors. How very sad. You are free to have your opinions, but when organizations such as yours work to change laws to encroach on my freedoms- you, my dears, will have a fight on your hands! ~ Anne Note: We hear this kind of thing all the time. But stay-at-home moms and single-income families are just supposed to sit quietly while the feminists spend thirty years pushing through "no-fault" divorce laws and lobby congress for taxpayer-funded child care that comes largely out of the pockets of single-income families? Im a member of the female race. Your website offends me so much. Therefore isnt that racist. The term rascist means "Discrimination or prejudice based on race". This website tells me to cover my body , why?! a man can wear his shift off. Why cant I , you are discriminating against me because i have breasts. That to me is racist. ~ Roisin I actually thought that this site was a joke. Honestly you people are so confused. I am apalled at what I have seen here today. As a highly educated and classy feminist I was shocked. I hope you women don't have daughters. I would hate to think that somewhere young women are being socialized to believe your certain brand of ********. You should be ashamed of yourselves. You do not retain the right to call yourselves real women. You are all pawns. I feel sorry for all of you. Christian women my ***, what about equality and individuality? What about joy and freedom ? ~ Megan C. You folks have GOT to be kidding. Please join the rest of us in the 21st century. ~ Kerry If God were to "spew" anyone out of his mouth, it should be you weak *******. Go slave in your kitchen and crazily serve your family. One day, I believe that this whole stupid family values thing is going to vanish and that's when everyone will have rest and true knowledge of everything without you idiots speaking about what is right or wrong. I also have the feeling that if many women like you advocate this so-called "care-giver and nurturer and homemaker" that women will eventually lose the rights that have been fought for by SENSIBLE women, and when that happens, I sincerely hope I see you in Hell. ~ Mel I think this website is absolute ********. TIMES HAVE CHANGED. Women should not feel pressure to stay in their homes, take care of their children, cook, clean, sew. WOMEN SHOULD BE ENCOURAGED TO WORK. These old-fashion ideas of femininity are discouraging to those who don't fit your "cookie-cut" idea of what a woman should be. GET REAL. Woman don't have time to sit around and KNIT because it's the "woman thing to do." Maybe the focus of your website should focus on the INJUSITICES woman face. NOT JUST WHITE WOMEN. Women of all ethnicities and races. FEMINISM IS POWER. ALLOW WOMEN FREEDOM. TIMES ARE CHANGING. ~ Whitney I just can not believe it, As I look more and more into your site I have begun to feel physically sick. But looking into what I think are more truthfull comments in, what did you call it? "Past Scorching notes."I am given a glipse of the real world, how it should be. As one person commented "I am proud to be feminist." So to will I respond. "I am proud to be feminist." Abd I leave you yet again with some wise words. "One is not born a woman, but becomes one.' Simone de Beauvoir ~ Willow What are you trying to do? Stop living in the past, this isn't the dark ages! We women have been modernised. No longer must we suffer at the hands of dressmaking and curtseys (unless you have an appointment with the Queen). I suggest opening your eyes to the world today. There are no right or wrong answers in life, but yours comes close to the latter. This is just a friendly reminder to look out your window. Out on the street there is a very good chance you will see girls who DON'T resign themselves to running a household and nothing more. That is all I have to say to you and your organisation. ~ Alex R. I think that this site is abunch of religous vomit. How the **** can you put all thi ******** down and still s;eep at night. I have grown up in a home with a mother figure who shares many of you ideals. I was once grounded because I expressed my pro cjoice feelings. Well anyway, I think this site is a peice of **** and I read it to educate myself about conservative wack-jobs. Dont you know that children who grow up in "sheltered" homes are 35% more likely to experiment with sex and drugs? Seems like your doing more harm than good. Peace Love and SARS ~an ultra ****** off feminist~ Well, you're a good writer. Lots of adjectives and a very entertaining flow of prose, but I'm afraid I (and all of my aquaintances) find your content rediculous. You're articles are overloaded with bias and your arguments often seem to only hold weight with people who would readily agree with them. You won't be able to bring other people to agree with your point of view that way. ~ Suzanne O. *YIKES* I thought this type of thinking went out with the 19th Century. I am thankful every day of my life for feminism and you should be, too. You can thank feminism for your right to vote, receive an education, work in the career of your choice, and your ability to choose whether or not you want to have children and how many. Thanks to feminism you are no longer the chattel property of your husband to do with as he pleases. Feminism has also pushed for equality for women and protection against patriarchal abuses under the law. I am amused yet deeply saddened that there are women who have internalized so much of this disgusting patriarchy that they identify so deeply with the very system that oppresses them. Fortunately, women like yourself who embrace the oppressor will go the way of the dodo and you will never succeed in turning the clock back 150 years no matter how hard you try. ~ Kat I am really sorry to have found your site. To think that there are women today who WANT to live in the dark ages, in ignorance, in slavery to men and to the god they created. You are enabling sexist men to continue your oppression by using guilt and fear to control you. You need to set yourselves free and find your true potential for life. Free yourselves from superstition and myths. The bible is a creation of men, full of borrowed legends, stories and history. There is not a word of truth to be found in it. Shake of the oppressing chains of Christianity and set yourselves free. Be real women. Learn, grow, reach out, be strong, be independant, be free, be women unafraid. ~ Brian LAF, LAF, LAF, LAF...HA HA HA HA HA. Really it's not very funny at all. You are all very pitiful trapped in archaic lies of what womanhood is. And your answers to criticism are so high and mighty. Maybe your thoughts would be clearer if you pulled that bible out of your ***. God's Word? I don't think so. It's all fairy tales. And I think it's pretty funny that you have to insert all those "spelling is correct" and "expletive deleted" ****. Your Victorianism is offensive. Besides the oppression and abuse that women suffered, sexual repression resulted in all kinds of deviancies just like the catholic church priests and nuns. And a bit of history ladies. The Jesus of the bible is pure fabrication. He never existed, there was no virgin birth, there was no crucifixion, there was no resurection. There is no heaven, no hell, no god. You are wasting your lives playing a stupid ignorant game of "submit to my man the master of my life because i'm an inferior creature created by god to be an obedient servant to that bible thumping, ******* husband of mine...praise the lord, halelujah, holy ****!" ~ Lady against stupidity This website completely expells all of the work and fighting that has gone into creating a society where men and women are equal. The kind of attitude which is displayed on this website is the sort of thing which encourages sexual abuse, violence and restriction between the two sexes. I understand that what you have said on this website is an opinion and i do not have the right to change it but i feel as though your opinion is one of the main causes of women not being free to do as they please in their lives. how many women get raped...beaten..or even worse every day in the world? these things happen because many men do not view women as their equal and feel as though they can treat women how they want to. THIS SITE PROMOTES iNEQUALITY! ~ Ashley When I was directed to your site by my cousin, I was not only suprosed but appauled by what I was reading. Thinking maybe I was hastily judging I reviewed some of your articles. It is sickening to think that there are women who would like us to take 20 steps backward. Women have worked hard to be where we are today. We are CEO's of companies, we are police officers, we are mothers and we are wives. We have made differences in many lives- found cures to diseases, and comforted the sick. Without women in the workforce this world would still be prehistoric. You say that you are repressing women in the name of God. Your views remind me more of what the Iraqis are doing to their women, not a religion. ~ Desiree I would like to graciously encourage you to crawl back under the rock you came from. I am a young woman, and I was led to this site by "feminists" who were completely appalled and disgusted with your site. I won't use those words, but I admit, I share in the same mindset. Women have worked for years to gather the same standing as men. And what for? To be treated as the equals that we are, to vote, to let our lives exist outside of the home. By letting men dominate you, you are dissolving all of the hard work that our grandmothers and great-grandmothers worked so hard for. I am a Christian, a liberal Christian, who believes that ALL people are created equal. I like to believe that Jesus Christ looks upon me, not below a man, but rather, His child. And as equal as any other of his children. How can you make a site that demeans women to such an extent and call yourself Christians? The Lord never told women to submit, his disciples [who grew up in a time period where women were sold into marriage...] did. I choose to believe Christ. On one last note, I have a burning question. Should girls be allowed to go to school and study if they are only expected to become housewives and mothers? Surely you'll find there is no point. A mother doesn't have to know how to speak a foreign language, or what X(Y) equals. They only need to know how to raise children and submit. Something I'm sure you're great at. ~ Courtnay It still amazes me the lengths that people go to keep others ignorant. Your website is a shame to our society and human advancement. I feel very very sorry that you have chosen to live your lives in accordance to another's decisions and desires...you will never know the joys of true freedom and intellectual development. SHAME ON YOU AND YOUR STAFF FOR PROMOTING LIES AND INSECURITIES. Your site makes me sick to my stomach. ~ MCS Curious: have you note realized without feminism, this site/ this group/ your ideas wouldn't matter to anyone? ~ Sara This one makes us smile. If there was no feminism, we wouldn't need to oppose it! So, yes, our site wouldn't matter to anyone. Wouldn't that be wonderful? I really do not believe that your organization knows the definition of feminism. Why would anyone be against a philosophy that stood for equality? I also disagree with your feelings toward Planned Parenthood. You would rather send these children through the system rather than abort them while they are still cells, not people. Planned Parenthood is a great organization that has helped many women. By overturning Roe v. Wade, you send women back to the butcher's block and these women would die. You rather have the mother die than that of a potential fetus. I think it is sad that you put your faith before humanity. Could you explain why there is an image of a woman reading on your site? Bog knows church-going, married women are illiterate, so I find it extremely distasteful that you should add an image of a woman who has evidently received some form of education on your site. ~ Friedrich The responsible law and order/ethics/consideration for all life humans are being swamped by the self-serving/self-obsessed/self-righteous charlatans who overproliferate the planet in every way possible causing climate change, global warming, resource depletion, deforestation, pollution, natural habitat destruction, wildlife extermination, wastelaying, infrastructure chaos and massive social disparity/dysfunction as epitomised in the chemical agri-factory surrounded wastelands of the infernal post Corbusier bunker cities and their global supply chains. Every year these egocentric apostles of ignorance increase the number of humans by more than eighty million in a global statement of nazi-style rights, supremacy and false/dishonest claims of economic/environmental/ecological sustainability. All they ever think of is their rights while murdering their fellow species and devouring their dead bodies like stone-age cannibals; a barbarism they call civilisation. The racketeers in politics, business, media, religion and law facilitate and feed on this human population explosion like leeches knowing that for every body sucked dry there will be at least two more victims to feast on. The media creeps keep the ignorant masses entertained with irrelevancies and football ad infinitum. All the money that is made available for so-called "environmental purposes" is/was made from unsustainable mass-production/trading that can only be sustained by ever more unsustainable mass-consumption and debt-financing in a spiral of global self-deception - unless money is used to increase the global natural habitat/forests that will serve to reduce and restrict the global destructive human footprint/quantum impact - it will only serve to accelerate more spiralling planet-damaging economic growth. If any other species overpopulated the planet like humans they would suffer the same terminal treatment the nazis handed out to the Jews. YOU MAY BE HELD LIABLE FOR PROMOTING, PARTICIPATING IN OR CONDONING THIS DELIBERATE PLANET DESTRUCTION. Everyone is invited to contribute their own view. Go to FORUM at www.equalearth.org Samuel E © Copyright 2002-2008 by LAF/BeautifulWomanhood.org
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