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		<title>By: Jenn84</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jenn84</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2010 19:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve always admired your honesty, Jasmine, and you as usual hit the nail on the head. I did NOT like other articles on this topic, because I felt they were arrogant. This series is a great story, it just needs to LIGHTEN UP on the soul-stuff. And Fig, as wicked as man might be, the average man is no comparison to a demon; let&#039;s just be honest here. The only good vampires are the ones who don&#039;t like their nature and refuse to kill (nine times out of ten they&#039;re former humans who were turned this way against their will).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve always admired your honesty, Jasmine, and you as usual hit the nail on the head. I did NOT like other articles on this topic, because I felt they were arrogant. This series is a great story, it just needs to LIGHTEN UP on the soul-stuff. And Fig, as wicked as man might be, the average man is no comparison to a demon; let&#8217;s just be honest here. The only good vampires are the ones who don&#8217;t like their nature and refuse to kill (nine times out of ten they&#8217;re former humans who were turned this way against their will).</p>
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		<title>By: Fig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jul 2010 23:31:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just wanted to say that I have read many, many wild-eyed arguments against  Twilight, so it is refreshing to instead read a well thought out, researched, and reasoned critique of the significant problems within the series.  

I don&#039;t really understand the knee-jerk reaction to a vampire as a &quot;good guy&quot; on the grounds that &quot;a vampire is by nature evil&quot; when the people holding this position are people who also believe (as I do) that man is by nature evil.  What better opportunity to show the extent of the struggle that naturally desperately wicked man experiences every moment and his utter inability to completely subdue sin in his own strength?  Unfortunately that opportunity was not taken, but at least in my opinion that was a writing decision and not a fault of the premise.  

(I do tend to think that Edward&#039;s stalkerlike tendencies and the idea of imprinting are things that could be considered more innocent in another day in age but do strike a creepy chord in a society where perversion is more prevalent.)

Again, I very much appreciate your thoughtful analysis and especially your comments from a writer&#039;s perspective.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just wanted to say that I have read many, many wild-eyed arguments against  Twilight, so it is refreshing to instead read a well thought out, researched, and reasoned critique of the significant problems within the series.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t really understand the knee-jerk reaction to a vampire as a &#8220;good guy&#8221; on the grounds that &#8220;a vampire is by nature evil&#8221; when the people holding this position are people who also believe (as I do) that man is by nature evil.  What better opportunity to show the extent of the struggle that naturally desperately wicked man experiences every moment and his utter inability to completely subdue sin in his own strength?  Unfortunately that opportunity was not taken, but at least in my opinion that was a writing decision and not a fault of the premise.  </p>
<p>(I do tend to think that Edward&#8217;s stalkerlike tendencies and the idea of imprinting are things that could be considered more innocent in another day in age but do strike a creepy chord in a society where perversion is more prevalent.)</p>
<p>Again, I very much appreciate your thoughtful analysis and especially your comments from a writer&#8217;s perspective.</p>
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		<title>By: Kristi L</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kristi L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jul 2010 11:26:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I liked reading Jasmine&#039;s review of the books and movie. I know very little about this. I do think the whole thing is pretty straight forward for a Christian, tho. Regardless of all the romance, mixed messages, abstinance viewed as &#039;old fashioned&#039;, etc.- the whole series is based on things of satan and occult. Phillipians 4:8 is also what came to my mind. What else do any of us need to know? Maybe I am being too simplistic. I believe it is not just a waste of time, it is a spiritually dangerous waste of time. The occult draws you in so subtly. 
Kristi</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I liked reading Jasmine&#8217;s review of the books and movie. I know very little about this. I do think the whole thing is pretty straight forward for a Christian, tho. Regardless of all the romance, mixed messages, abstinance viewed as &#8216;old fashioned&#8217;, etc.- the whole series is based on things of satan and occult. Phillipians 4:8 is also what came to my mind. What else do any of us need to know? Maybe I am being too simplistic. I believe it is not just a waste of time, it is a spiritually dangerous waste of time. The occult draws you in so subtly.<br />
Kristi</p>
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		<title>By: Tiffany</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tiffany</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jul 2010 17:47:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I began to wonder if a real, live eighteen-year-old girl might read Eclipse and think that it was safe to spend the night in her boyfriend’s bed without her dad’s knowledge as long as her boyfriend was committed to abstinence?&quot;

That is exactly what I told my friend after seeing this movie in the theater. Only I&#039;m thinking, in this day and age, it&#039;s going to be 13-16 year old girls.  And the sad reality is that real boys and girls aren&#039;t going to be able to carry out that commitment to abstinence if they are participating in those kinds of behaviors. The film was scary to watch, as I feel that I am just watching what so many of children in this generation are doing or will be doing. 

And I agree with the Botkin sisters. Emotional pornography is exactly my word for it. It&#039;s why I have refused to read even one of the books.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I began to wonder if a real, live eighteen-year-old girl might read Eclipse and think that it was safe to spend the night in her boyfriend’s bed without her dad’s knowledge as long as her boyfriend was committed to abstinence?&#8221;</p>
<p>That is exactly what I told my friend after seeing this movie in the theater. Only I&#8217;m thinking, in this day and age, it&#8217;s going to be 13-16 year old girls.  And the sad reality is that real boys and girls aren&#8217;t going to be able to carry out that commitment to abstinence if they are participating in those kinds of behaviors. The film was scary to watch, as I feel that I am just watching what so many of children in this generation are doing or will be doing. </p>
<p>And I agree with the Botkin sisters. Emotional pornography is exactly my word for it. It&#8217;s why I have refused to read even one of the books.</p>
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		<title>By: Ana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 00:19:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jasmine, thank you very much for your thoughts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jasmine, thank you very much for your thoughts.</p>
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		<title>By: Jasmine Baucham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jasmine Baucham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jul 2010 22:05:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, Ana, 

If you&#039;ll read my bio, I&#039;m a research assistant -reading things that I agree with, disagree with, that are edifying, that are potentially harmful is what I&#039;ve been trained to do in order to gain information. If you&#039;ll read some of the feedback here, you&#039;ll see how reviews like this can be helpful for those to whom the harmful content of Twilight isn&#039;t as blatantly obvious as it was to you (like Jen, above, or even Kara, who had never thought of the books in this light before... even for the scores of Christian young women who are already engrossed in them, or are seeking to engage friends who are engrossed). Reviews help people make educated decisions about what they&#039;re reading... And give people who have read and enjoyed a different perspective to think about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Ana, </p>
<p>If you&#8217;ll read my bio, I&#8217;m a research assistant -reading things that I agree with, disagree with, that are edifying, that are potentially harmful is what I&#8217;ve been trained to do in order to gain information. If you&#8217;ll read some of the feedback here, you&#8217;ll see how reviews like this can be helpful for those to whom the harmful content of Twilight isn&#8217;t as blatantly obvious as it was to you (like Jen, above, or even Kara, who had never thought of the books in this light before&#8230; even for the scores of Christian young women who are already engrossed in them, or are seeking to engage friends who are engrossed). Reviews help people make educated decisions about what they&#8217;re reading&#8230; And give people who have read and enjoyed a different perspective to think about.</p>
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		<title>By: Ana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jul 2010 16:17:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;God’s Word tells us to flee sexual immorality (1 Corinthians 6:18). As we flee it in the physical sense, so we ought also be careful what we’re feeding our minds, and what we’re turning our hearts towards.
...how would our time be better spent?
...what is edifying about the world Meyer has created in the 2400 most widely read pages in America right now? And how much time have we wasted reading them?&lt;&lt;

I&#039;m disappointed that you would sound the alarm for all of us and our daughters and yet immerse yourself in this immorality for the sake of research. I think we can judge this one by its cover, so to speak...and FLEE.  It&#039;s very obvious that these books and movies are off-limits for Christians. I don&#039;t understand the need for these types of reviews.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;God’s Word tells us to flee sexual immorality (1 Corinthians 6:18). As we flee it in the physical sense, so we ought also be careful what we’re feeding our minds, and what we’re turning our hearts towards.<br />
&#8230;how would our time be better spent?<br />
&#8230;what is edifying about the world Meyer has created in the 2400 most widely read pages in America right now? And how much time have we wasted reading them?&lt;&lt;</p>
<p>I&#039;m disappointed that you would sound the alarm for all of us and our daughters and yet immerse yourself in this immorality for the sake of research. I think we can judge this one by its cover, so to speak&#8230;and FLEE.  It&#039;s very obvious that these books and movies are off-limits for Christians. I don&#039;t understand the need for these types of reviews.</p>
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		<title>By: jenpenny5297</title>
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		<dc:creator>jenpenny5297</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jul 2010 06:33:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel as if I should share my testimony on these books and movies.  I became completely and utterly obsessed with them after the very first one.  I felt some sort of out of control pull to continue reading forsaking all else going on in my life including the people surrounding me and my day to day responsibilities.  When I finally realized how I was behaving I got rid of the books and quick.  As soon as I did I felt as if a 300 lb. weight was lifted off my shoulders.  I think Satan disguises himself in many, many forms.  From my experience I feel that this was one of them.  My experience is not the only one I have heard of.  I realize that most people will not believe what I am saying and they will think I am crazy but it happened and it was very real.  Since then I very carefully guard what I read and if I start to get a feeling that a text could be questionable I immediately put it down.  Thank you so much for this article.;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel as if I should share my testimony on these books and movies.  I became completely and utterly obsessed with them after the very first one.  I felt some sort of out of control pull to continue reading forsaking all else going on in my life including the people surrounding me and my day to day responsibilities.  When I finally realized how I was behaving I got rid of the books and quick.  As soon as I did I felt as if a 300 lb. weight was lifted off my shoulders.  I think Satan disguises himself in many, many forms.  From my experience I feel that this was one of them.  My experience is not the only one I have heard of.  I realize that most people will not believe what I am saying and they will think I am crazy but it happened and it was very real.  Since then I very carefully guard what I read and if I start to get a feeling that a text could be questionable I immediately put it down.  Thank you so much for this article.;)</p>
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		<title>By: zoestercoaster</title>
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		<dc:creator>zoestercoaster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jul 2010 05:06:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I... I... I can&#039;t believe I agree with an article here.

Hold me, I feel faint.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8230; I&#8230; I can&#8217;t believe I agree with an article here.</p>
<p>Hold me, I feel faint.</p>
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		<title>By: Dianne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dianne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jul 2010 16:24:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok so I always wondered what those books were about and why girls were suddenly into trying to be like vampires. Your condensed version is hilarious! Anyway, keep up the good work Jasmine. You have such great thought-provoking articles! I totally agree with you on this one. I am convinced that writers use &quot;abstinince&quot; because it creates much more of the tease that the world loves. If the novel began with two people sleeping together from the first page, it probably wouldn&#039;t sell very well. However, abstinence, in this instance and others, is a tool used to create an atmosphere of sexual intensity- not promote Godly purity and sexual chastity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok so I always wondered what those books were about and why girls were suddenly into trying to be like vampires. Your condensed version is hilarious! Anyway, keep up the good work Jasmine. You have such great thought-provoking articles! I totally agree with you on this one. I am convinced that writers use &#8220;abstinince&#8221; because it creates much more of the tease that the world loves. If the novel began with two people sleeping together from the first page, it probably wouldn&#8217;t sell very well. However, abstinence, in this instance and others, is a tool used to create an atmosphere of sexual intensity- not promote Godly purity and sexual chastity.</p>
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